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Episode 19: Pedestrian Deaths are Finally Dropping? + Johnny Transportation Comes to Town
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Pedestrian Deaths – David & Wes dig into a surprising shift in pedestrian safety and ask a harder question: are streets actually getting safer, or are we just seeing a temporary drop in risk? After years of rising fatalities, recent numbers suggest a modest improvement, but the pattern is anything but consistent. They explore whether this reflects real progress from design changes and enforcement, shifting travel behavior, or simply volatility in a system that still produces predictable danger. It’s a conversation about what it would actually look like if we knew how to make streets safer, and why the data do not quite tell that story yet.

Other topics:
🔹 The Secretary of Transportation’s road trip reality show
🔹 Gas prices & the resiliency value of transit
🔹 Should we be subsidizing ridehail commutes?

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Additional resources:
GHSA’s Report on Pedestrian Traffic Fatalities by State: 2025 Preliminary Data (January-June)

Wes Marshall & Alejandro Henao. "The shock heard round the suburbs: Assessing the vulnerability, resilience, and transportation affordability of higher fuel price scenarios." Transportation Research Record (2015).

Rachael Bronson & Wes Marshall. "Alternative and adaptive transportation: What household factors support recovery from a drastic increase in gas price?." International Journal of Environmental Science & Technology (2014).

Lyft brings pre-tax commuter benefits deal to 14 more cities

Bruce Schaller. "Can sharing a ride make for less traffic? Evidence from Uber and Lyft and implications for cities." Transport Policy (2021).

Music by Charlie Van Stee (courtesy of bensound)

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